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July 10, 2008



And after all was weighed, calculated, and planned, I decided to frog the first sock and re-knit it to match the shorter one.

The decision was instantaneous. Well, I first tried to thread a lifeline through the round in question for 15 minutes, but after that, it only took an instant to frog the majority of that first sock!

If you've ever tried to knit (or frog!) something from the "opposite direction" - not from where you were last knitting, but from the cast-on edge - then you know that stockinette loops look the same whether you're working up or down. Ribbing is trickier, because the working loops are between knits and purls - it just looks odd, but functions okay (as long as you aren't trying to knit more ribbing, because it will never match up).

In the case of Belle Époque, however, I was dealing with eyelets and decreases, patterned on every round, which proved to be beyond my level of patience and persistence. Fifteen minutes later, I declared, "not worth it!" and frogged with absolute assurance! As far as I was concerned, this was the one and only solution all along ;).

Every good plan needs a Plan B, right? Can't say the Maths were wasted, since I still would have needed to crunch the numbers to know how much to frog ;).

Yes, I have several sets of those dpns, for situations just like this one, and for multiple WIPS, should the need arise. No, I don't recommend walking around with that getup on your feet. Not because you might trip and fall, or stab yourself... but because the needle will slip right out and you'll lose your stitches!

Posted by Kathy on July 10, 2008 11:36 PM


Hi Kathy!
Just started with a blog myself. I'm an ER doctor who moonlights once a month at Melrose ER, but I have a friend of mine who knits and just moved to Cambridge! She's having a tough time finding a cool knit shop there so will have her check out your terrific blog!! (We did like the shop in Salem however)

I admire your courage to frog.

Sometimes frogging is the only answer. And you save money, more knitting - no new outlay of cash.

Okay that might be carrying Pollyanna too far.

I like your reasoning for not walking around like that.

This is the approach I would have taken, too.

yeah, me too. But I was quite interested to learn the Transplant method....

I bought my first skein of Jitterbug this summer and will knit toe up with it, just because of things I've heard and now seen.

Brave choice to just suck it up and frog it all. Lovely socks, in any case.

You have the cutest toes and feet!

I think I would have frogged but probably both of them... and then picked a more lacey pattern without cables to stretch out the yardage.

My husband would be horrified to see what you've done (I had to rip out most of the toe and an inch of the foot of the last sock I did because it was too long and he was very discouraged to see all that work being undone!) but sometimes it is the best/only answer. You'll be rewarded with a great looking and, very importantly, great fitting pair of socks - they're a beautiful pattern and colorway.

Way to frog! You have more courage and strength than I do.

Well I have a skein of brown colinette waiting to be knit up. After seeing this, I think I will have to add alternate colored heels and toes, split the yarn into two balls and work my way up the leg.. J

I would have done the same thing....what's another sock to knit.....and it will go fast....we've all been there...done that!

So there is another reason I don't knit socks -- not only would I have to endure the dread second sock syndrome, but there'd be the added anxiety over having enough yarn to finish.

The cable pattern is really nice and the tweediness of the yard is very appealing.

I would have done the same thing you did...sit around, figure out how to make it work, contemplate the maths needed, tinker with how to cut, re-knit, graft, sew, work backwards, perform brain surgery, and then, finally, frog the whole thing. The only difference is I would have probably frogged in a fit of rage :)

Oh argh! It's a good thing you're a process knitter, eh? I'd have probably just bought another skein (You can actually get half skeins of Jitterbug now!) and hoped the dyelots weren't too far off!

I would have been sorely tempted to cut off the top, put a little steek in there and then pick up some stitches and do the eyelet cuff. I tried some steeking a few months ago in a desperate attempt to turn a pullover into a cardigan, and once you get over the pain of the first cut, it's not so bad.

You are brave to even photo your socks on the feet with the needles still in there. I'd first have to at least have erasers on the tips and even then I'd be fearful. LOL you are brave, not chicken.

ohhhh! I was waiting for your math, calculations and pictures.... Well, sometimes is better to frog than to get "desperado". I had to frog my first toe up like 4 times, but finally I did it! After that I used my trusty balance to make my calculations: now I know I can get two pairs for the price of one skein yipiiiiiii!!!! (I have really small feet)
Love your blog!

I agree with Melissa! I never frog happily. It's usually because I'm so frustrated from trying to save the project!
I snapped 2 DPNS wearing a sock. And you can stab yourself!

Don't blame you ONE BIT! Smart move and they're going to be wonderful!

They will be beautiful and flawless - sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and frog.

Discretion is, after all, the better part of valor.

I'd probably have bought another skein.

Excellent choice! Looks great!

Your socks look great, pre- and post-frogging. I have made two pairs of socks with Jitterbug, one pair of anklets and one pair of regulation length with contrasting toes and heels. I guess the short yardage doesn't bother me that much, because I have several more skeins waiting in the wings--I love the look and feel of that Jitterbug!

You make me feel better for frogging my own socks. I'm a good knitter - just not always the first time.

I had a similar problem with the Colinette, but refused to frog a whole sock. So I thought about it for a couple of days, and purchased another skein in the same colourway. Of course the colour was a little off(more pinkish) so I frogged the foot of the first sock and then continued both feet alternating the two skeins. A perfect match! And I still have enough to make a pair of anklets!

The yarn is simply smashing on that stitch pattern! That's quite a courageous frogging you've endured, but well worth it.

I admire your patience and persistence. I would have thrown my hands up, frogged everything and started over completely!

I'm with Sara... when I saw your plan (which involved math - yikes) to rejigger everything I admired your persistence and critical thinking.

OT: when you knit combination (your page is excellent thank you so much!) how do you yarn over on a purl row? I am knitting a lace pattern with increases and decreases on the purl side and the yarn overs just didn't look right.

You did the right thing. They'll be lovely. That yarn totally rocks.

i would have done the same thing. i'm laughing at the comment about losing the stitches being worse than stabbing yourself with a needle!

Wow, that looks like SO much fun! I think I would have puked.

I'd go with the frogging any day. The anxiety of the maths would do me in way before the frogging.

That being said, I have a beautiful sock (an part of another)that I must frog to some exent because the freaking vendor who sold me the yarn sold me 2 different dye lots and I didn't notice until it was too late. They are so different that there is no hope that I can keep knitting the 2nd sock and pretend that they match. boo hoo--that's knitting.

I'd go with the frogging any day. The anxiety of the maths would do me in way before the frogging.

That being said, I have a beautiful sock (an part of another)that I must frog to some exent because the freaking vendor who sold me the yarn sold me 2 different dye lots and I didn't notice until it was too late. They are so different that there is no hope that I can keep knitting the 2nd sock and pretend that they match. boo hoo--that's knitting.

THANKS for the DPNs!! Now we shall see if I can achieve 10 stitches to the inch during my lifetime.... if so, it will be on ravelry

It was worth seeing if it was possible, but frogging is always the answer in my book.

Oh, my. I have been worried about just such an thing on some of my socks too. I think I would react just the way you did. Because I am just not sure how much yarn I have, I have been making shorter socks. Of course, then I have leftovers. Now I have to figure out what to do with that!

When in doubt, I frog.

Good decision! I think they will look great even at the shorter length.

Yes, sometimes one simply must frog.

Walking around with dpns in the manner illustrated kind of reminds me of racing chariots -- you could take someone out with those things! Bet no one would mess with you.

But then, as you say, you might lose stitches. Not worth it.

Patience and courage you have in abundance.

Frogging is really annoying - but usually worth it. These socks are really pretty - I'm rather jealous!

Granny is worth it I'm sure, but what a pain in the rear. They are going to be gorgeous.

hmmm... I had similar problems with my first few pairs of socks - now I mostly try to knit them toe-up at the same time on 2 circulars. That trick isn't for everyone, but anyone who is avoiding sock knitting it does address some of the concerns.

Please tell me the needle didn't slip out as well!

We've all been there

Great decision, the socks look great at the new shorter length, I just discovered your blog and look forward to througly exploring it as I am new to knitting socks, I have wonderful yarns, just need to understand the construction better. Criminy Jickets refered me to your blog for help, especially on picking up stitches, I will be using this technique shortly.

When I try on socks in this "state", the hubby calls me, "Reaver Toes". (Ten points for knowing the reference...)

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