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June 26, 2007

Edits?

The only thing better than voyaging through the World of Knitting is having fabulous co-pilots - thank you, my friends, for taking this joyride with me.

"Come along and ride on a fantastic voyage."

That looks more like it, don't you think? Following the instructions Joan M-M e-mailed to me, the Fishnet Knee-Highs emerge exactly as promised.

And that wasn't the only exciting discovery, my friends! No! Much like the Odessa hat, the knee-high pattern is a spiral - there's no beginning or end, just one continuous, seamless coil of stitches.

Well, nearly seamless. Since the fishnet pattern is a 2 round repeat, there has to be a seam. A teensy seam that the designer disguised very cleverly, but a seam all the same. Can you spot the stitches which join the 2-round repeat into a spiral?

I took the time to center "the seam" on the bottom of the foot, so it's as invisible as possible. At least for now. Eventually it'll snake its way up the calf and onto the front of the leg, but I have a feeling it will be unnoticeable nonetheless.

Having completed the tricky bits of this pattern, I have a sneaking suspicion that Joan M-M has been "over-edited." Not only did the editor completely revise the stitch pattern (the stitch pattern, people! what's more important than that?!?), the rest of the instructions seem to be missing that Joan M-M touch. Like how to figure out when it's time for the heel, or how to position the heel in relation to the toe, or where to place the beginning of the round after completing the heel so that the eyelets continue to flow.

I'm guessing Joan included all those hints in the original pattern, and they've been edited out. For shame.

Someone who's knit a pair of socks (or two) will be able to figure things out, I'm confident, but not before a hearty amount of headshaking. Good thing Wick is quite resilient!

Posted by Kathy on June 26, 2007 11:52 PM

Comments

Kind of curious as to how these feel against the foot. I am not much of a sock wearer (yet am a sock knitter) but these interest me, they look a little bumpy, that would drive me nuts.

Kathy

These look like they'll be nice for the warm (ok, it's HOT now, but..) weather. Oh, and I missed saying happy knitaversary! And that magic cast-on looks intriguing...

Very cool - it's looking great! I'm dumbfounded that they would edit the stitch pattern!

Hot damn, you're fast! The progress looks great.

I am so glad, that it is working for you now. Maybe you could give Ene some time as well?

I, like Kathy, am curious about the comfort of the sock, especially on the sole. Is it possible to convert the sock to a stockinette bottom with the spiral fishnet top, or would that just mess everything up?

This adventure with these socks has been interesting. Maybe I will be a little less judgmental about errata.

Wow! Looking good! I am such a pattern follower! Ugh!

You know, re: editing the stitch pattern --

despite our human tendency to see forethought and conspiracy in bad things happening, I think that so many things that other people do are just -- plain dumb mistakes and not with malice aforethought. We as humans have an infinite capacity for messing things up! (As witnessed by some of my knitting projects!)

I have a feeling the stitch pattern change in the socks was the result of a simple asterisk typo that wasn't caught: the correct instructions are [k1, *yo, k2 tog* (repeat between **)], and the printed instructions are [*k1, yo, k2 tog* ] etc. One misplaced asterisk can do so much! So I think the editor/proofreader messed up the stitch pattern, but didn't do so on purpose. The ribbing is a little more baffling; hard to say if that was intentional or again, just a proofreading/editing error.
Ah well, to err is human, to forgive divine, but one wishes proofreaders of knitting patterns would err a little less often! Proofreaders ideally should be knitters and should have to test-knit their projects as printed! Failing that, they should be top-flight. Think about it -- proofreaders for calculus or engineering textbooks are probably not PhDs, but somehow those get printed with few errors (not zero, but a whole lot less despite being highly technical with complicated equations). Just another example of knitters not getting respect!

(There I go again with conspiracy theories, eh? after pointing out that it's probably not REALLY on purpose. But you know, you get what you pay for, and if you don't pay enough attention to proofreading, you end up with a lower-quality end result. Hmmmph.)

Off the soapbox now; sorry for the long post. The socks look beautiful, and I'm glad you test-knit them for me before I tried them!

What is with editors?? Trust the knitter! The knitter knows! Don't go changing stuff just because "k2tog" doesn't make sense to you or whatever. (Remember Yahaira's story about the editor who wanted to convert all her metric needle measurements to inches? That's my classic go-to story of incongruous editor-to-author relationships.)

Wow! That pattern is so cool! As usual, you knit, I want to copy. I can't wait to see the final product.

question; how do you think this fishnet sock, or any fishnet sock would work up in a sock yarn with elastic content?
i could answer that by knitting it myself ... but what do you think?

Absolutely on the reader gallery! I'm getting great feedback on it, both in the store and on the blog--congrats on another home run pattern =)

How do you think the eyelets are going to feel on the bottom of your feet? For me, I think the unevenness of them would drive me batty, but I'm rather picky when it comes to things like that.

fabulous! well done!

and great that you were able to get the info from Joan MM herself. very helpful.

and they do look fun!

Contrarian here. Intriguing pattern, but one that looks more fun to knit than to wear. That said, knit on, G/K!

Interestingly enough, a very similar pattern was used this past time around in one of my sock clubs. The yarn was a Silk/Wool blend and was very stretchy - an overall fault with both the pattern and design, IMO. Also, rather than a "yo k2tog" repeat, we used a "yo p2tog" repeat ... WHEW! That was hard!

Anyway, I'm looking forward to using the Wick yarn, but I'll likely do something more sock-y so that I can make maximum use of the polypropelene/wicking aspect.

Regardless ... nice socks.

That looks very cool! The yarn you're using is very interesting. IMO, I would knit this in a slightly thinner yarn, just to maximize the delicate laciness of it all, but it looks great at the gauge you're knitting at, too! I'm sure your sock-knitting skills will be up to the challenge of "figuring things out". :)

Well, first, they're beautiful. No question. But isn't that eyelet pattern going to feel like those nubby, acupressure sandals on the bottom of your feet?

Lovely! And the seam is nearly invisible.

The editing issue is weird -- I mean, the stitch pattern? Really? Seems like the last thing you'd want to let slide, slide, slippity, slide... (Hangs head in shame at having taken Coolio reference way, way too far.)

Beautiful! I'm so tempted but I wear an 11 and am afraid mine might end up looking like shopping bags.YOURS, however, look fantastic. Like Wendy, I'm curious how the sole will feel. Massaging action?

Dude, why do editors do that?! Arrrgggg!

Like so many others, I am wondering, possibly perplexed?, as to the comfort of these socks. I wore the real deal fishnets way back in the 60's & 70's and they were not all that comfy.

Just wondering, are those kind of ouchy to stand on--the texture and all?

I think I see the seam, but I can't be sure! Cool. That pattern looks so very tactile, I keep wanting to reach into the screen and touch it.

I love those fishnets, but don't think I could see the seam, very cleverly disguised. Where do I get the pattern please?

Those socks are awesome! Thanks for bringing problems with the pattern to our attention. I've got to have those socks!

It looks like you may be casting on for The Bag sooner than me. If you do, can you blog whether you think it's necessary for a provisional cast-on? I can't figure out why the pattern needs it. You just cast off after the bag is washed but no other Allhemp pattern does this. Any ideas?

WOW! There look FANTASTIC!

Looks very similar to the Knitty fishnets pattern that drove me crazy (in fact, I'm still not done).

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